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Gorean slavery

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     ********   This is not my own writing, below, but taken from two helpfull website.I felt it was important to post because latley I have seen some horrific things in regards to slaves. I have seen a lac of basic knowledge and felt that this could help a few people.  Here are some generals in regards to slavery in gor.

 

 

Procedures of Slavery

Laws are an essential part of the Gorean experience. A Gorean, whether Free or slave, believes that law is what makes men Men and animals lesser. Law is what keeps civilization from shearing itself into pieces and preventing atrocities from occurring. When it comes to slaves, there are many which pertain to their existence, limitations, societal intent, and rights.

It must be stated that without question, slaves do not have rights. They are given rights based on their heritage, performance, and the desires of their Owner(s). They do not legally own anything, not even their own life, name, or anything given to them. If they are slave, they do not own it. Any rights they are given can be easily taken away and never returned. A slave's rights are entirely up to them and how they decide they wish to live. The very idea of 'natural' rights or 'human' rights does not exist on Gor. Rights are given or truth depending on if you are Free or slave. This has never been questioned by any Gorean and I highly doubt it ever will be. It is simply the way it is.

There are so many laws concerning slaves, both male and female, that to actually list them all would be exhaustive and require many more pages than can just be stated here, so a simplified list of the most important will be stated here while any specific laws or rules governing specific types of slaves will be stated within that specific entry.

  • Everyone is subject to slavery, even Men. Women are simply more likely to become enslaved then Men.
  • Legally, slaves are considered property, regardless of their type, position, or value to their Owner(s). This means they are treated, by law, as domesticated animals. This makes them subject to anything that their Owner(s) wish to do. An Owner has strict and absolute control over their slaves, including their very right to existence.
  • Slavery is used to satisfy financial debts.
  • Free Women can become a slave at any time, but only if they become collared, submit, or show gestures of submission.
  • Almost all females from Earth, often sent by Journey of Acquisition, are considered automatically slaves because of the Gorean mentality that Earth females are inferior to native Gorean females. This means that there is no process in the legal system for discussing the possibility or context of slavery.
  • Any crimes committed as a Free Person are dispelled upon the official recognition of a Free becoming a slave. A slave cannot be held accountable for any crimes committed by them as a Free.
  • All children born from a slave are considered slaves of the mother's Owner(s) at the time of birth, not the time of conception.
  • Slave papers and any form of legal documents concerning slaves or slave ownership cannot be falsified. It is considered a felony on Gor and punishable by severe consequences, including up to death.
  • Slaves are not permitted to carry weapons or receive combat training without approval by a Magistrate and the Owner(s). Few cities alter this law, though there are exceptions to this law, particularly in Outlaw society and Panther girl society.
  • Slaves can only handle money indirectly.
  • Slaves cannot do anything or attempt anything that proclaims or identifies themselves as a Free, whether through clothing, speech, or written documents. Any attempts at this are considered capital offenses and punishable by death, torture, and dismemberment.
  • Rape of a slave is considered a capital offense for both slaves and Free. In Gor, the identifier of rape is any non-consensual or consensual act that is committed without the approval of the slaves' Owner(s).
  • Slaves cannot carry or touch legal documents by their flesh. All legal documents carried or touched by slaves must be done so wrapped in materials such as leather or cloth.
  • Slaves cannot build or create anything used as infrastructure, architecture, or engineering as this is the purview of the Free. The only exception to this rule was the city of Port Kar, which was built by slaves.

 

    "It is one thing to own a woman," I said, "and it is another to have her within the bonds of an excellent mastery."
Magicians of Gor     Book 25     Page 465

I considered the unilaterality of the master/slave relationship. All power is with the master. This, of course, has its effect upon the slave. Let her strive to be such that her master will keep her.
Magicians of Gor     Book 25     Page 127

The slave cannot free herself. She can be freed only by an owner. The condition of slavery does not require the collar, or the brand, or an anklet, bracelet or ring, or any such overt sign of bondage. Such things, as symbolic as they are, as profoundly meaningful as they are, and as useful as they are for marking properties, identifying masters, and such, are not necessary to slavery. They are, in effect, though their affixing can legally effect imbondment, ultimately, in themselves, tokens of bondage, and are not to be confused with the reality itself. The uncollared slave is not then a free woman but only a slave who is not then in a collar.
Renegades of Gor     Book 23     Page 273

"The slave who lies about her slavery," I said, "is not thereby the less a slave. It is only that she is then a lying slave."
Renegades of Gor     Book 23     Page 273

"May I surmise from this," she asked, "as I know little of slavery, and am new to the condition, that there can be tenderness and kindness for a slave?"
"There can be tenderness and kindness for a slave," I said.
. . .
"Can masters and slaves be friends?" she asked.
"Yes," I said.
. . .
"Do masters ever love their slaves?" she asked.
"Often," I said.
Blood Brothers of Gor     Book 18     Pages 101 and 113

Love on Gor does not purchase a girl lenience; it does not mitigate her bondage, nor compromise her servitude, but rather renders it the more complete, the more helpless and abject.
Tribesmen of Gor     Book 10     Page 214

I know of no pleasure comparable to the pleasure of owning a woman, fully. It is indescribably delicious; it is glorious; it fills one with joy and power; it exalts and fulfills the blood. It teaches a male, in the thunderous currency of intellect and emotion, what is the true meaning of manhood. Compared to it, the gratifications of pretense and denial, the insistence on subverting ones blood and virility in the name of a false manhood conditioned by a demented, antibiological society, are pallid indeed. Let those who can climb mountains climb then; let those who cannot climb them console themselves with denying their existence.
Rogue of Gor     Book 15     Page 81

One of the great pleasures of making love to a slave is the uncompromising exploitation of her marvelous sexual sensitivities, her helplessnesses, they putting her so much in your power, enabling you to do with her as you please and obtain from her what you want. She may be brought up and down, as you please, at your will, at your mercy, and played like an instrument. She may, if you wish, be held short of her ecstasy, cruelly, if you desire, or, in a moment, with a touch, granted it. There are few sights so exciting and beautiful as a helplessly orgasmic slave crying out her submission and love.
Vagabonds of Gor     Book 24     Page 216

"One of the pleasant things about owning a slave," I said, "is the opportunity to converse with her, listen to her, to hear her express herself, her feelings and ideas. One can learn much from a slave. Many slaves, like yourself, are highly intelligent. They can express themselves articulately, clearly, trenchantly and lyrically. It is a great pleasure to talk with them."
Beasts of Gor     Book 12     Page 203

I am fond of the slave dances. It is hard for a woman to be more beautiful than when she dances her beauty as a slave before masters. But then a woman can be incredible beautiful in almost all attitudes and postures.... A woman can be very beautiful simply greeting her master, head down, at the door of his chambers, She can be very beautiful in doing so small a thing as pouring his wine, eyes downcast, gracefully, as his slave. Perhaps she is a bit more beautiful, however when she kneels, helplessly before you or lies piteously at your feet supplicating you to satisfy her slave need. Perhaps she is most beautiful when she, collared in your arms, cries out in orgasm, acknowledging you as her master.
Explorers of Gor     Book 13     Page 343

Goreans, as the men of Earth commonly do not, celebrate quickness of mind and alertness in a girl.
Assassin of Gor     Book 5     Page 125

"May I speak, Master?" asked the girl.
"Yes," I said, as Marcus would not respond to her. This permission may be given by any free person and is effective, unless it is overruled by the true master.
Vagabonds of Gor     Book 24     Page 486

Masters, incidentally, seldom brand their own slaves.
Tribesmen of Gor     Book 10     Page 41

. . . the brand is impersonal; the collar is intensely personal; the brand marks her property; the collar proclaims whose property she is . . . the brand relationship to the free man is institutional; the collar relationship, on the other hand, is an intensely personal one.
Tribesmen of Gor     Book 10     Page 42

The Gorean Master, commonly, likes a spirited girl, one who fights the whip and collar, resisting until the last, perhaps months later, she is overwhelmed and must acknowledge herself his, utterly and without reservation, then fearing only that he might tire of her and sell her to another.
Nomads of Gor     Book 4     Page 29

A slave girl is a delight to a man; she is extremely prized and precious; that the day of her acquisition should be celebrated each month with special ceremonies and rites is not surprising. These numerous anniversaries are deliciously celebrated, as they may be with a girl who is only a slave, and seldom forgotten; should such an anniversary be forgotten, should it be such that it is commonly celebrated, the girl redoubles her efforts to please, fearing she is to be soon sold.
Slave Girl of Gor     Book 11     Page 66

It is said, in a Gorean proverb, that a man, in his heart, desires freedom, and that a woman, in her belly, yearns for love. The collar, in its way, answers both needs. The man is most free, owning the slave. He may do what he wishes with her. The woman, on the other hand, being owned, is institutionally and helplessly subject, in her status as slave, to the submissions of love.
Slave Girl of Gor     Book 11     Page 180

"Please, Master," she said, "take pity on me. Take pity on the miserable needs of a girl."
"You are not mine," I told her. "You are a pretty little thing, but I do not own you."
"Please," she said.
"Your master," I said, "if he chooses, will satisfy your needs. If he does not, he will not."
For all I knew she might be under the discipline of deprivation. If that were so, I had no wish to impair the effectiveness of her master's control over her. Besides I did not know him. I did not wish to do him dishonor, whoever he might be.
Beasts of Gor     Book 12     Page 48

Gorean slaves, incidentally, are commonly carried over the threshold when they first enter a master's house or place of residence. . . . Not all Gorean slaves, of course, are carried over a threshold. Some are leashed and enter on their hands and knees. Some, perhaps bound and collared, are thrust through. The common denominator of these customs, of course, is that the slave must understand that force, either explicitly or implicitly, is involved, and that she will enter the stronghold of the master, and as a slave, whether she wills to do so or not.
Explorers of Gor     Book 13     Page 186

"You were bound in a blanket, and on my shoulder," I said, "when I entered this room."
"I mean before," she said.
"No," I said, "I did not. I did, however, if you will remember, when first I used you, order you to my blankets."
"I have never forgotten," she said. She shuddered with pleasure, remembering the moment. "I was simply ordered to your blankets," she said.
A similar sort of thing is done sometimes when a master brings home a new girl to a house which is completely empty, if necessary, by prearrangement, and new to her, and orders her to enter alone. "Warm wine," he tells her. "Light the lamp of love. Spread furs. Crawl naked into them, and await me."
"Yes, Master," she says.
She then enters the house, obeying. Not a shackle or a cord is on her body. But few women could be more slave than she, entering fearfully the strange, empty house, and preparing herself for her master's pleasure.
Explorers of Gor     Book 13     Page 187

"Come here," I said, "and kneel here." She rose from the water, it dripping from her body, and came and knelt on the grass, on the bank of the small stream, where I had indicated. I took the comb from her and laid it to the side. I then took the brush and, kneeling behind her, began to brush out her hair. It is not unusual for Gorean masters to comb and groom slaves, or ornament them personally, much as they might any animal that they owned.
Savages of Gor     Book 17     Page 237

Surely slave tunics leave little to the imagination. Among the girls, of course, there is little disagreement in practice, though some in theory. The girls, commonly, treasure even the tiniest rag which can afford them some shielding, however pathetic, from the imperious gaze of masters. Too, from the point of view of the masters, the little that might be left to the imagination, small as it is, by such a garment, is often found to be intriguing and stimulating. It encourages them to her stripping. Too, giving a girl a bit of clothing, tends to give one more control over her, For example, will she be told to remove the garment, or will it be taken from her, and if so, publicly or privately? It must be understood, of course, that a slave, having no rights, does not have the right even to clothing. That a girl is wearing even a rag is usually a sign that she has pleased her master, and quite significantly, too. Often the garment of a slave girl does not come easily to her. In private, of course, even rags are often dispensed with. The slave is the property of the master, and, in the privacy of his quarters, she is done with, totally, as he pleases.
Savages of Gor     Book 17     Page 330

Gorean men, on the whole, do not free slaves. The freeing of a girl is almost unheard of. This makes sense. They are not free women. They are belongings, valuables, slaves, treasures. Who discards precious possessions, who surrenders treasures? If the slave girl were worth less perhaps she would be freed more. She is too marvelous to free; and if she is not marvelous, she can be slain. Too, what man who has known the glory and joy of a girl at his feet is likely to wish to exchange that for the inconvenience and bother of a free woman? No, slave girls, for all practical purposes, are not freed. They will remain in one collar or another. Men will have it that way.
Explorers of Gor     Book 13     Page 90

On Gor it is not unusual to bell a slave, and the erotic clash of such bells, slave bells, on an ankle, in the markets and parks, in the plazas and bazaars, is a frequently heard sound. And the same bells which serve so well to draw attention to a lovely, demurely tunicked slave in the sul market, her shopping basket balanced with one hand on her head, serve as well, doubtless, to record in their jangling her leapings and squirmings in the arms of her master.
Prize of Gor     Book 27     Page 546

A slave may not conceal her body from a master, of course, without his permission. Her beauty is not hers; it is owned by the master.
Kur of Gor     Book 28     Page 95

Goreans, of all castes, are skilled at thonging, braceleting, binding and such. That is to be expected in a natural society, a society in which a prized and essential ingredient is female slavery, a society in which it is an accepted, respected, unquestioned, honored tradition, an institution sanctioned in both custom and law. Even boys are taught, under the tutelage of their fathers, how to bind female slaves, hand and foot. They are also trained in gagging and blindfolding, two useful devices for controlling and training slaves.
Prize of Gor - Page 632

Some Gorean masters do not permit their girls to look into their eyes unless bidden to do so, but this is rare. More often the discipline or punishment is not to permit the girl to look into the eyes of the master, which increases her apprehension and, of course, severely limits her capacity to read his moods. That is somewhat analogous to denying her food, or a particular food, taking something away from her. In standard first position the Gorean slave girl kneels with her head up, unless forbidden to do so. One of the great pleasures of the master/slave relationship is the unparalleled intimacy which obtains between the participants, an intimacy which is naturally much enhanced by the ability to see and react to one another's expressions, body language, and such, these things so indicative of thoughts and feelings. Men desire complete slaves, it seems, and this means total, vital, feeling, thinking females at their feet; that is apparently what one wants there; few if any men, it seems, desire a mere body, a puppet, a doll, an empty slave; who could be satisfied with such? Where would be the triumph, the pleasure, the value? What then, in such circumstances, could be the master's joy in owning us? Ellen had been told that she had very beautiful eyes. They were gray. Her hair was a very dark brown. The hair and eyes of Mirus, as those of most men, were brown. Ellen looked into the eyes of Mirus. His expression seemed severe. She averted her gaze. One reason to look into the eyes of a slave girl is to see if there is welcome in them, happiness, anticipation, shyness, mendacity, slyness, deception, joy, confusion, uncertainty, apprehension, fear. If one cannot look into the eyes of a slave, how can one well read her, how can one adequately master her? To be sure, much can be gained from body language. But then more can surely be gained from both her face and body. And from the slave's point of view, how can one best please a master, if one cannot truly see him?
Prize of Gor     Book 27     Page 180 - 181

The word of the master, of course, takes precedence over the word of a free person who is not the slave's master or mistress.
Swordsmen of Gor     Book 29     Page 178

There is a considerable difference, of course, between being the slave of a peasant, peddler, or herdsman and that of a high merchant or Ubar, but both are identically slaves. In the collar all women are equal, and nothing, mere slaves, though the collars of some may be set with diamonds.
Rebels of Gor     Book 33     Page 41

There are of course a thousand thousand variations in the mastery. Sometimes more is accomplished by what is not done than by what is done. Women are different and slaves are different. Much, for example, may be done with postponement, neglect, and anticipation. Sometimes a slave becomes so distraught, even beside herself, with anticipating the inevitable that she can stand it no longer, and throws herself to her belly before her master, sobbing, and begs her usage. "I am your slave! Please have me, Master! Ravish your slave! She is yours. Have mercy, Master! Ravish me, ravish your slave!" Too, when a woman is not frequently and well used, such being the common practice of masters, she begins to fear that she may no longer be desired, that he is considering another slave, that she may be taken to the market. All the fears and harrows which may afflict a free woman in an ambiguous relationship are multiplied in the case of the slave, who is without recourse, other than her collar and beauty. The free woman, for example, cannot be simply stripped and sold. Sometimes a slave will even beg the whip that she be reassured that her master still cares for her, if only enough to beat her. Slave beatings, incidentally, are quite rare, and almost always of a punitive nature. The slave is pleased to be subject to the whip which situation is quite meaningful and excites her, but she seldom cares to feel it. So she is likely to behave in such a way that there will be little cause, or temptation, to use it on her. Why should she be beaten? She is doing her best to be a good slave, to be wholly pleasing to her master. To be sure, sometimes the slave may be beaten to remind her that she is a slave. Few things so impress her bondage on her as the lash. Under the lash she is in no doubt that she is a slave. Interestingly, the slave, in her tears, often welcomes, and is grateful for, this confirmation of her helplessness, vulnerability, and servitude. It reassures her of that of which she wishes to be reassured, that she is a slave, the property of her master.
Rebels of Gor     Book 33     Page 323

Comments

49 comments on this post.

ThieryWMay 24, 2016 4:22 AM

Well posted.

ThieryWMay 24, 2016 4:37 AM

When you use quote marks and such they take over and make your post family friendly.

Robak~WMay 24, 2016 4:51 AM

Many slaves and even Free forget these facts..nice post B

Kyri~Kassau~May 24, 2016 10:31 AM

Very good post. I would, however post from what websites you took the information from for copyright reasons. The slave pool and Gor has been lacking lately. I feel if you are going to Role play a part at least learn the protocols first.

EmersonMay 24, 2016 1:59 PM

I 'm still learning . but then I think no matter how long each and everyone of us has been in Gor , We still learn some form of knowledge we didn't know before . So thanks to everyone who ever puts up a helpful site, piece of information or a simple quote that helped them in some small way.

olıνıα~Dahna~rsMay 24, 2016 3:10 PM

this one thanks the Mistress for offering such wonderful information. It is good to see that Free are still willing to train slaves.

Bianciella FC WamphMay 24, 2016 5:23 PM

Check out this website. It is decent. www.goreancave.com Lot's of great info there!!!!

ThieryWMay 24, 2016 5:23 PM

It would be good if slaves would remember their role as slaves and realize their places in RP. Want to be a slave? RP a slave. Want to RP a free woman? Learn to play a free woman. Don't blur the lines in blog posts.

MemberMay 24, 2016 5:31 PM

I agree fully Thiery, but there is also a responsibility of Free Men and Women to remind them of their place too. Piss poor ownership lends itself to a piss poor slave, generally speaking.

ThieryWMay 24, 2016 5:47 PM

Very true, Wamph. Well said.

ThieryWMay 24, 2016 5:55 PM

Fogaban, owner of the Gorean cave knows his stuff. His site is excellent.

⦁⦁⦁May 24, 2016 6:42 PM

The moons appear because emoticons work in blogs, and where is says Owner(s ) the s inside the closed parentheses creates the moon emote. As for the second part, I am not sure, but this is my guess: it might be because of how it pasted in from the website. Copy/pasting from a website keeps certain formatting, not all of which is compatible with Buzzen blogs or transfers correctly. Possible fix: Click "Paste as plain text" icon, then paste it into the box that pops up.

BartMay 24, 2016 7:45 PM

Bianci, this is very good information.

ThieryWMay 24, 2016 8:16 PM

If you say her name 3 times in a row, she'll appear. Just like Candyman.

Kyri~Kassau~May 24, 2016 10:06 PM

You should post where the information comes from so others may seem it out for their own reading.

OleanderMay 25, 2016 5:18 AM

Wait, wasn't that Beetlejuice? : ) Good information Biancella, sometimes we forget not everyone knows it.

Kyri~Kassau~May 25, 2016 3:57 PM

Does anyone think it's worthwhile to get together and come up with some standardized kajira training that would be agreed upon by all gorean participants on buzzen? There are supposed to be caste guilds how about standardized kajira training? Just a thought. I am not sure how something as such could be mutually agreed upon by all homes here.

Bianciella FC WamphMay 25, 2016 4:02 PM

a great idea, though I do think it would be difficult to get everyone to agree...but yes a great idea.

MemberMay 25, 2016 4:10 PM

Yes absolutely.

Same applies to all castes too, so you don't end up with fly by night warriors who never/can't fight for example, or scribes who don't know how to write et al.

The responsibility rests with us all to make it happen though.

ThieryWMay 25, 2016 4:26 PM

Lol @ Scribes who can't write. Or spell.

Robak~WMay 25, 2016 4:28 PM

It will be difficult to get everyone to agree,someones standard may not be the same as others,,and slaves learn what there owners want them to be,,a basic training level for all slaves that is a good idea..but remember ,its the r/pers gor no one elses,,and as for training of castes who has the right to say what someone should or shouldnt do, I.E ive heard so any times that so and so isnt a warrior because they wernt trained by such a body etc etc ,the same would happen with slaves .

Robak~WMay 25, 2016 4:30 PM

Continued..?same would go for all castes.if we could make the imposible happen and have a blanket agreement that would be great...lets see what transpires and who will decide on whats what

ThieryWMay 25, 2016 4:35 PM

Warriors who can't fight is a standard for all chat realms I bet. Warriors aren't feared at all and other castes scoff at them. I suggested once that non warriors get less time to post their attacks and defenses because of their lack of skill. It didn't go anywhere though. Tor vies and some Wagoneer people would be the exception of course.

ThieryWMay 25, 2016 4:36 PM

I remember the practice of qualifying for the last name of Williams like my other trained brothers in steel. Being congratulated by Rowan for getting my tag was a highlight (for me) of my career.

Bianciella FC WamphMay 25, 2016 4:46 PM

Honestly, I have mixed feeling about the whole "its your gor thing".Yes you have a right to rp as you like. but I do feel the role you choose to play has guidelines and should be realistic. so example, a slave may be a little shit..because they may not want to do something that a typical of gor and then say "its my gor, i will rp as you like"..which fine..but then they should realize they choose to be a slave..they choose to rp a slave. and if they do not like the ideologies and responcilbilites

Bianciella FC WamphMay 25, 2016 4:46 PM

of being a slave, then they should go take a long walk off a short pier and play another character that is more suited to them.

Robak~WMay 25, 2016 5:00 PM

well Thiery Rowan said to me it dosnt matter who trained you ,he saw me as a Warrior and that showed me what a Man he is ..wisest Man ive come across for sure..and my W isnt anything to do with the name williams.i respect all Warriors if they deserve my respect no matter who trained them..and B slaves will always get into trouble its there nature ,for most of them.if they come into Gor as slave then they should act as one for sure,but many are from bdsm and cant hack the ways of a gor slave

ThieryWMay 25, 2016 5:09 PM

Who did train you? And the Williams thing was a joke. Some FW asked me once years ago in gcn why some of had W's. I told her we were all last names Williams.

Robak~WMay 25, 2016 5:10 PM

lol
dosnt matter who trained me .ive learned from different sources over the years

ThieryWMay 25, 2016 5:12 PM

Lol. Okay. Just asking. I'm proud of what I've accomplished and have no issues saying who trained me.

Robak~WMay 25, 2016 5:18 PM

and i respect that Thiery as Rowan was a great man who i respected ..i bring the tag of Warrior from what ive done and achieved in r/t also...i have learned a lot from Judas by listening to him same as i have with others, but theres more to being a Warrior than just kowing how to fight..theres protect the innocent and uphold the law and the codes..and keep Honor and Respect..but you will know these things i dont need to preach

Bianciella FC WamphMay 25, 2016 5:35 PM

agreed Robak, but because they cant hack does that make it right? there are many that can totally hack it.. in fact I know even as a compliment one of your slaves that for sure can.. but my point is, if they want to TRY to hack it they can, if they are going to bitch about it..what are they doing here then? At least try. It is not for the free to bend and be softer before they bitch, or have attitude. It is for the slave to put in effort, try, learn, ...actually not just slaves...free too.. we

Robak~WMay 25, 2016 5:41 PM

basically its up to the owners to keep slaves trained and inline not for others to decide
if someone wishes to learn then we should help them and be patient as some dont learn as quick as others do

Bianciella FC WamphMay 25, 2016 5:46 PM

agreed to an extent. it is up to the owners. however... i can give you an example of one that was offered help ..and still refused..and only said they would do what was told AFTER getting in punishment for it. that is not acceptable. If you are here to rp a gorean slave, then put in a effort and try. Make an effort to learn. What if you have seen them try before..but as an example for this particular instance they decided to hide and not do it? Everyone learns at their own pace, for sure, that I

Kyri~Kassau~May 25, 2016 5:46 PM

Thank you all for the civil conversation and thoughts. I was thinking along the lines of if we have certain standards of roleplay rules like time away and caste guilds, there should also be kajira rules, as well. You would think that in order to roleplay in Gor a person would at least read a few of the books to get a general idea of roleplay. I think that is a lot of the problem. (Cont'd)

Bianciella FC WamphMay 25, 2016 5:46 PM

agree with you 100%. What I do not agree with is, is something not willing to put in a effort, even when offered help.

Kyri~Kassau~May 25, 2016 5:47 PM

People do not take the time to research and learn all they can about Gor, which causes lackluster roleplay.

ThieryWMay 25, 2016 5:57 PM

I'm just glad I own baňa. I never have this bs coming from her. She's perfect

Kyri~Kassau~May 25, 2016 6:05 PM

You are lucky Thiery because there are girls running around, as well as, Free that don't know Gor and don't want to know about it. How can you roleplay a character when you know nothing about the environment that it is set-in.

ThieryWMay 25, 2016 6:44 PM

Luck has nothing to do with it. It's skill and love of the game.

I think Buzzen For is the way it is because there are so few of us that the bdsm crap leaked in and is not just allowed in some rooms. It'll be had to get rid of also.

Robak~WMay 25, 2016 7:34 PM

there are many good slaves out there i own some and bana is also a good one i have time for her

ThieryWMay 25, 2016 7:55 PM

Thank you, Robak

WarrenJun 9, 2016 2:02 AM

What was said to be a major issue meriting severe repercussion in the books was a man knowingly violating the sexual restrictions of an owned slave, not the sexual use of a slaved owned by another in general. Assassins in particular shows that the use of a slave without the owner's permission is not always seen as a serious transgression in the books.

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